Episode VII

Thoughts on what we'll see and who'll appear?

No clue on where the hell they will go with this. When the last movie came out I felt the series had run its course and that it was nice to leave it behind. Now with VII actually happening, I really have no expectations at this point. Once news crops up on who will actually be in it and what the film will be about, that's when my interest will rise. But all that's known is that some of the original cast will return and J.J. Abrams is returning, and I hope he does not try using that mystery box on this film like he did with his own.

Beyond that? I dunno what will happen, but I would like to see how powerful Luke Skywalker is. Will he still be the same person, how much has he grown as a Jedi?

I'm expecting it to be about 35 years after RotJ and to take place after the latest events in the novels. They've taken the books to a certain point around this many years in the future and haven't allowed any to go beyond this.

As a result, I think Luke, Han and Leia will play a major part but it will be more a passing of the torch to Jaina, Ben and Jag to take over the reins.

I've heard rumors though of it telling an abridged version of the Legacy of the Force story arc, which could be fun to see on screen; but if the age changes of some of the characters is true, then it would completely destroy the cannon established by the EU; which would be a major piss-off since everything was always tied together (aside from some of the Clone Wars series).

So the countdown officially begins......






RIGHT NOW!

12/18/15 will be a very special day for all of us and ONE for one of us in general. 40 years isn't too bad...

With all the lessons learned on the Prequels there's no way they can stuff this up.

If you had told me 10 years ago there would come a day where I would see a SW movie in theaters and never bother to revisit it again, I would've told you to pound sand. Hell I've even watched AOTC multiple times (even if it was for posterity's sake in a marathon).

But then Rise of Skywalker happened.

I don’t revisit films the way I used to back in the day. In fact, I don’t even like seeing the same movie more than twice in theaters these days.

I sort of wait like three years before I feel like rewatching anything. TROS’ time will come when I feel like watching Star Wars. I doubt I’ll ever do a nine movie marathon again. Too much. Of course, I’m always game to watch James Bond because I’m a fiend.

Same. Not to get all dark and dour, but the older I get the more I realize there are more movies I want to see then there is realistic time to watch them. I'll have my comfort food movies I pop on every so often as background noise (like the original trilogy), but rewatches these days are generally reserved for films that I feel I can genuinely get something out of from a second viewing.

GojiraCrunch wrote:

If you had told me 10 years ago there would come a day where I would see a SW movie in theaters and never bother to revisit it again, I would've told you to pound sand. Hell I've even watched AOTC multiple times (even if it was for posterity's sake in a marathon).

But then Rise of Skywalker happened.

Yeah. Since COVID, I've contemplated an entire series rewatch. But knowing TROS is waiting for me at the has stopped me every time I consider it.

I’ve considered just rewatching the OT, but I’ve seen that trilogy so many goddamn times growing up that they could play in my head verbatim, beat for beat, so rewatching it without anyone with me feels like a time waster unless I just put it up as background noise.

I hope you enjoyed that run on sentence.

TROS really does sour a desire to do a series rewatch.

My wife wants to run through everything - including the animated shows - chronologically sometime soon. I figure that will take long enough that we'll have another film by the time we're done. Hopefully one far better than TROS. Oof.

Stockslivevan wrote:

But all that's known is that some of the original cast will return and J.J. Abrams is returning, and I hope he does not try using that mystery box on this film like he did with his own.

*jokerlaughing.jpg*

It really is something to stop and consider what an absolute waste of money, time, and talent TFA ended up being - a film that, despite having the official nameplate and a significant passel of the original talent, feels less like a Star Wars movie than it does one of the pile of movies in the '80s - early '90s that tried to kitbash a star war (or fantasy star war) together by throwing familiar components at the wall in hopes that some of them will stick.

And that was an attitude that barely passed muster on the dollar shelf at Blockbuster; to see it played as cynically as this by the biggest media empire in the world when they were completely at liberty to take their time and figure out a good approach to revitalizing a moribund franchise, and had just done so on a grand scale with the MCU, was nothing short of mind-boggling.

But that's the power of Disneyfilm Ltd. Unltd., the Great Sausage Grinder, and J.J. Abrams, the wunderkind writer/director who can't write for shit. Oy gevalt.

What's the general consensus from y'all on Last Jedi? I pretty much fell away from the boards when CHUD transitioned to TC so I wasn't around for those threads.

For me it's the lone bright spot of that trilogy, and I'd probably have it tied with Rogue One for best of the non-OT movies.

Pretty mixed. Some love it, some hate it, some are just in the middle thinking it’s “fine”.

I mostly love it.

Shame we'll never know what could've been from a Rian Johnson trilogy. Would've been something different, at the very least.

I like pretty much all of the Kylo/Rey/Luke stuff in TLJ beyond the goofy flashback "explanation" for how things came to be the way that are. Some of it - the Crait showdown in particular - is some of the best Star Wars.

Other parts - the slow speed chase, the casino - is some of the boringest Star Wars.

TLJ is the best one of the Sequel Trilogy. There are bits and pieces I like from TFA and Risewalker but the difference between JJ's and Rian's approach to the material is like night and day.

The TV series we've gotten so far surpass the ST in every conceivable way IMO.

To me, TLJ is an interesting arthouse flick that fails pretty miserably as an action adventure.

It's also a buddhist-pacifist critique of everything Star Wars – presented under the official logo. No wonder the fanboys got enraged.

Freeman said that if EMPIRE had come out today it would be eviscerated by today’s fandom. I can’t see how he’s wrong on. It’s accepted now because 40 years have passed and it’s pretty much etched in stone. Sort of like how WRATH OF KHAN riled up a vocal section of Trekkies, but they couldn’t get their voices out beyond a fanzine comment page in 1982. Today they can scream it on social media, band together, and feel justifiably wronged.

I'm not sure it would be eviscerated. It's hard to tell because these days, the "hot take" gets all the attention, oft-times regardless of how widely supported or felt it actually is. We're all aware of a lot of social media accounts that post incendiary opinions merely for the clicks.

I honestly do wonder whether I would've been one of the fans screaming HERESY!!! over Spock's death in 'Khan', but I also rolled with the deconstruction elements of 'First Contact' and Deep Space Nine, not to mention the...recent unorthodox ending of the last Bond outing.

I think when you're younger and are deep into the canon of a particular IP you are openly hostile to anything that changes or challenges it. Of course this assumption got tossed into the garbage compactor when the Prequel Trilogy came out and then many years later with the Sequel Trilogy.

Speculative fiction in print and in various media has been successful because it has changed along with society's views and values. Nobody wants the same stagnant story beats recycled ad nauseum, outside of a very vocal and small minded minority of course.

Headless Fett wrote:

I think when you're younger and are deep into the canon of a particular IP you are openly hostile to anything that changes or challenges it. Of course this assumption got tossed into the garbage compactor when the Prequel Trilogy came out and then many years later with the Sequel Trilogy.

Speculative fiction in print and in various media has been successful because it has changed along with society's views and values. Nobody wants the same stagnant story beats recycled ad nauseum, outside of a very vocal and small minded minority of course.

Did the PT challenge the OT? Or did they just challenge the fanfic novels?

Bucho wrote:

Headless Fett wrote:

I think when you're younger and are deep into the canon of a particular IP you are openly hostile to anything that changes or challenges it. Of course this assumption got tossed into the garbage compactor when the Prequel Trilogy came out and then many years later with the Sequel Trilogy.

Speculative fiction in print and in various media has been successful because it has changed along with society's views and values. Nobody wants the same stagnant story beats recycled ad nauseum, outside of a very vocal and small minded minority of course.

Did the PT challenge the OT? Or did they just challenge the fanfic novels?

That combined with the preconceived canon that fans had been building in their heads since ANH.

Midiclorians didn't go over well with some people let me tell you.