The FRAME WORK Podcast

NOSFERATU feels like the perfect project for Eggers. I hope he gets to make it.

Maybe to clarify, I think it’s not the characters that are completely amoral, it’s the world, and perhaps just by modern standards. The way you get into Viking Heaven is by dying in battle, full stop. If you don’t die with a weapon in your hand, you end up in Viking Hell, which is a dark cave full of ghosts and depression. Maybe there’s some room to quibble with the definition, but that’s a morality so removed from modern understanding I don’t think it even qualifies as morality. This is purely a world where power is essentially the only metric of any worth, and most fantasy worlds don’t come close to that. Even the charnel houses of Westeros or Hyborea have clearer notions of virtue.

As to Dune, I don’t know that such a sweeping epic is within his reach, or would even be remotely intelligent to bankroll, but an adaptation of Bradbury or Heinlein? Yes please! I’d love to see Eggers take on one of the scary ones, maybe Mars is Heaven.

Having just revisited both the Murnau and Herzog versions of Nosferatu, I now want Eggers take on that material more than ever. Hopefully he can get it going again in a year or two.

I know he also has scripts for a medieval knight movie and something in the Elizabethan era. I'd like to see those too.

I don't think his version of Baba Yaga (or something similar) would be too close to The Witch either, so I'd love to see that too. I suspect he'd go more fantastical with such material than he did on The Witch (which still has plenty of fantastical elements).

Normally I might lament the box office disappointment of The Northman, as it does indeed mean that Eggers is unlikely to go big again anytime soon (if ever). But given that he seems perfectly fine with that in interviews and is fully content to just keep making smaller films, I'm good with it. That said, it'd be nice to see him do something on the scale of The Northman again someday.

Glad people dug THE NORTHMAN episode, I felt like I wasn't very articulate that day, but he's an interesting enough filmmaker that I guess it carried me through.

I guess I'm going soft, when it came to the raid sequence. I came in ready for ultraviolence, but the lingering on the slaughter of children and elderly after the action was distressing in a way that caught me off guard.

The casual, matter-of-fact handling of the aftermath of the single-take sequence was definitely striking.

Just gonna leave this here...

Excellent! I actually just fully caught up with the Nolan episodes yesterday.

Listened to the DUNKIRK episode whilst cycling. A very good discussion! While I agree with Belloq/Blake's assertion that the emotional distance/representational nature of the characters is deliberate, hard disagree that even the end presents an "earned" emotional catharsis or investment.

Like arjenn, I need an actual story and characters with some sort of texture or at least a couple of dimensions of depth.

A courteous but hard disagree, as well, in regards to comparing 1917 to DUNKIRK. The latter is the superior film in just about any regard.

The Dunkirk episode was a fun discussion about a movie where the message is just surviving a defeat is good enough in the grand scheme of things.

Starting to think I'm one of the few who views Dunkirk as top-tier Nolan.

The Schlocketeer wrote:

Starting to think I'm one of the few who views Dunkirk as top-tier Nolan.

Welcome to the club!

BETTER CALL SAUL

My audio is a bit messy on this one, my internet provider was really struggling this week.

Belloq87 wrote:

The Schlocketeer wrote:

Starting to think I'm one of the few who views Dunkirk as top-tier Nolan.

Welcome to the club!

And my ... fishing boat!?!

Bucho wrote:

Belloq87 wrote:

The Schlocketeer wrote:

Starting to think I'm one of the few who views Dunkirk as top-tier Nolan.

Welcome to the club!

And my ... fishing boat!?!

Took me a moment, but worth it.

A bit of an odd thing I've been thinking about...

One of the earliest legacy sequels I can think of is Cruise's THE COLOR OF MONEY.

The earliest of the modern spate I can think of is Kosinski's TRON: LEGACY.

And now Cruise & Kosinski have made this one together. I have to imagine their previous experiences heavily informed their choices here and is probably why it's way better than it should have been.

That aside, I don't really think you all gave Kosinski enough credit. If everything here works mostly because of Cruise's heavy hand behind the scenes, then how do you explain recent duds of his like JACK REACHER: NEVER GO BACK, THE MUMMY, and AMERICAN MADE? I'd never call Kosinski an auteur or an amazing director, but I think he's a better filmmaker than the likes of Ed Zwick, Alex Kurtzman, and Doug "How does this man still get hired?!?" Liman and that shows in MAVERICK.

In truth, I blame the script of TRON: LEGACY more than the direction. I think OBLIVION is better but the script...again...feels like it needs another draft.

I haven't seen any of Kosinski's other fillums, but JB is one of an increasing number who say Only the Brave is well worth a look so as soon as that one becomes free on one of my streaming things I'll check that bad boy out.

The Schlocketeer wrote:

One of the earliest legacy sequels I can think of is Cruise's THE COLOR OF MONEY.

Yes! I literally just made a crack on the Discord about how it'd frankly be rude for Cruise not to make a third in the Hustler/Color of Moneyverse!

ONLY THE BRAVE is worth your time.

Bucho wrote:

Yes! I literally just made a crack on the Discord about how it'd frankly be rude for Cruise not to make a third in the Hustler/Color of Moneyverse!

If we do get another Cruise legacy sequel, it needs to be this.

It would be a legacy sequel for the New Kid character in a previous legacy sequel.  A grandlegacy sequel. Truly breaking new ground.


But I'll settle for A FEW RIGHT MOVES MORE.

Schwartz wrote:

It would be a legacy sequel for the New Kid character in a previous legacy sequel.  A grandlegacy sequel. Truly breaking new ground.


But I'll settle for A FEW RIGHT MOVES MORE.

A FISTFUL OF RIGHT MOVES?